He was on the list, but I couldn’t find him in any of the photos or videos from the event. The CEOs of Nvidia and OpenAI were indeed present and shaking hands though.

Commenting on the very article from the OP, he called the content disgusting.

Seriously? This thread began with you bringing up current political struggles, to which I reasonably replied by bringing up Ukraine as an example of one frequently discussed by tankies. From there, you’ve derailed and strawmanned by failing to address the points and resorting to a form of “America though” every single time.

Funny how even that article essentially concludes that the war in Ukraine stands in the way of Russia taking it to Europe and that the Ukrainian people need support. Of course that had to be omitted from a community called “Death to NATO”. Still, even on the tankie instance, a top comment from another tankie instance user is “Its from a sensationalist rag though. I can trace most of the dumb shit my uncle tells me back to them.”

Putin is many times wealthier than any US president, including Trump, and he certainly has more power from over 26 years at the top than any of those temporary figures. So yeah, best to follow your own advice and focus on the bigger picture. Moreover, as it’s been implied in someone else’s comment, the victims of Russia in a country like Ukraine who have to hide away in bomb shelters and bury their friends couldn’t care less about your take on the NWO. They don’t need to be told who the enemy is. They can look outside.

Why would I care about what it wants or what it wants specifically in your opinion? How much do you even know of Putin? What role did the US government play in how he came to power, including the 1999 apartment bombings, his handling of the Kursk disaster, as well as the Beslan and Moscow hostage situations? What role did it play in Putin’s political opponents being killed and persecuted even in the earliest years of his presidency? And his Ozero friends from before his presidency that would become filthy rich from corruption schemes involving the government? And his disdain for uprisings and the power of the people formed when he personally witnessed the protests during his time in Dresden? Let’s start there, before the Munich speech, the invasions of Georgia and Ukraine, influence and sabotage operations across the US and Europe, military involvement in Syria and Africa, wide-scale crackdown and killings inside Russia itself, and so forth.

Are you implying Putin’s own writings and statements come from the State Department or something?

In the screenshot, an infamous tankie from ML is calling MeanwhileOnGrad a Nazi bar.

Made-up struggles, like Ukraine being a Western puppet used to fight Russia, rather than it being a dictator acting on his imperialist idea of rebuilding the Soviet Union. Ask a tankie about the Holodomor and you’ll see the actual depth of their so-called knowledge.

Calling this community a Nazi bar is incredible. I’ve not seen a single comment here defensive of any form of Nazism, be it historical or rebranded (e.g. the alt-right or MAGA). My impression is that the users’ views here range from anarchist to liberal.

Supporting dictators is antithetical to leftism. Tankies are not leftist by definition.

I mean if you’re not interested in fully entertaining the hypothetical, realistically, Prigozhin was very unlikely to achieve much either. Not only would there be a threat to his legitimacy and life from Putin himself, but also even if he somehow got to Putin, it would drastically destabilize the government and open the door to a revolution or another coup. In authoritarian and fascist countries like Russia, everything rests on the figure of the leader.

Moreover, there’s a difference between Prigozhin criticizing from the backseat and actually being the president. The West alone would be trying hard to offer him enough to get him to stop the war, and he’d not be as ideologically and historically entrenched in it as Putin to say no. An oligarch like him is highly opportunist.

If we’re talking how it is rather than how it could be, Prigozhin is dead.

How do you imagine a country ruled by Hamas, provided it had enough power and resources?

shitlibs

But then in their other comment:

I cant speak for anyone else but on a personal level I don’t tend to agree that calling people “tankies” and “red fash” is productive when referring to other leftists

OK, for all intents and purposes, it’s a tankie.

Now how does the same admin feel about Bandera, Azov, the Russian Volunteer Corps, and the Prigozhin mutiny?

Trump’s peace in Ukraine promises are like Russia’s 3 day war.

Putin has a long track record of killings, persecutions and rights violations over more than two decades of fascist leadership. Neo-Nazism has been state-sanctioned under Putin, with powerful and wealthy allies like Prigozhin not merely espousing the ideas but quite literally torturing and murdering people in Syria and Africa, both to further Putin’s political goals and to act on the Wagner members’ internal hatred of non-white people. If anything, people like Nikitin, his friend Tesak, and many others of that scene, were also a product of Putin’s Russia, where street-level neo-Nazis were financially supported by the government and used for political reasons in the early 2000s, when racially motivated hate killings were on the rise. Nikitin’s neo-Nazi ideas or even hate-fueled brawls in Europe were like child’s play compared to the actual fascism of Russia under Putin.

In this instance, I’m talking specifically about Trump, but Russia’s influence on Europe is also undeniable, though not always as crystal clear. They have their own people in the European parliaments and intelligence from the likes of Schröder, in addition to paying the likes of Le Pen, running the troll factories, creating fake news, and so forth.

I think it’s rarely done as a direct order. More often than not, it’s a combination of all those things, best illustrated by when the Russian government and its trolls paid for Facebook ads and pretended to be American activists, getting people inside America out to protest for both guns rights and against them, as well as for BLM and for the likes of Trump. They’ve done the same in Africa and other regions. One of the goals is to create division not only to weaken but also to use domestically, as Putin’s justification for his “strong hand” leadership has often been to point at the “chaotic” and “soulless” West and ask if the population wants the same in Russia.

It’s not about the fact of cracking down on minorities, but about the specific language used, specific policies introduced and changes made. Think of any part of Trump’s crackdown on trans rights and you’ll find direct equivalents to it in Putin’s recent policies that preceded it. There are many ways to be transphobic, but they land on the same themes and talking points pushed by the right-wing figures who take Russian money.