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  • All large cities in Finland are heated by combined heat and power (CHP) power plants.

    These power plants first make super heated steam (like 800°C, 1500°F), runs that through turbine to make electricity, then send the cooled down water (80-150°C, 170°F-300°F) to all homes through district heating grid.

    From that water the home is heated and hot water is used.

    Now that we have the district heating network, when electricity is cheap, we can also use electricity to boil the water and send it through the grid. Water is also easy to use as storage, if the need of consumption requires buffering.

    Smaller cities use just heat plants, were there is no turbine for electricity generation, just the heating of water to district heating grid.

    Most plants use biomass as power source in the power plants, historically they were coal, but it has been now almost completely phased out.



  • Hotzilla@sopuli.xyztoSelfhosted@lemmy.worldCams, anyone?
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    The problem is that it can only be speculated how they work, because they have not published it. That is quite suspicious in my book.

    I personally would avoid reolink and use rtsp + frigate + ha, to have full control with known open source selfhosting solution.

    I understand that people like the easy setup, but if you already do selfhosting, it isn’t that big jump.


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    Be careful with reolink, their P2P solution is pretty suspicious. No body really knows how it works and who it shares the data with.

    You can disable those features, but it will stop reolink app from working.

    They have never explained how the peer-2-peer network works, and it security and privacy is quite unknown.

    Reolink is Chinese, which doesn’t really help these concerns.

    Better to selfhost frigate and just rtsp cameras there.










  • Large scale three phase energy generation is always something rotating in sync with the grid. Easiest way to do that is to spin turbine+generator.

    All nuclear, coal, biomass power plants just heat water to 300-800°C and push it through turbine.

    The thing is that it is really quite robust, and there isn’t any other good solutions to it. They do have quite a lot of loss, but the cooled water after process (still over 100°C) can be used in other industries or district heating improving the efficiency.

    Hydropower just spin the turbine with water flow. Wind directly spins the turbine, which is good for efficiency. Solar panels are still quite inefficient, but because they just use space, they make lot of sense even with poorer efficiency.




  • Yes, and the basic principle of thermal batteries has been quite common here in Finland for some time.

    All Finnish cities have district heating networks, so there is some heating plant that generates heat, which is distributed to homes using water as medium. It is closed system where hot water goes in, colder water comes out, which is heated back up. This energy is used to heat the home and heat the cold usage water (faucet/shower etc)

    Because the network is lots of water, there is already quite a lot of energy storage in the heat grid itself, so itself works as a battery. In last five years almost all big networks have created water based thermal batteries. Those are 7-8 stories high insulated water containers. These make sense because you just start taking the already heated water from the container to the grid when ever you need.

    So the tech itself is quite standard here, just the medium of using sand is new. Sand brings you bit longer storage time, but adds bit of complexity to the process.

    Source: I work in a company that owns these kind of networks




  • There could be some sense figuring first out water containers. Old saying is that human survives few minutes without oxygen, few days without water and few weeks without food. Water > Food

    Also as a hunter gatherer, food is around you (berries, roots, game) and you can carry them with you. Drinking water is more scarce and keeping it with you when you move around needs some container.