They did. HP sauce changed their recipe, someone gave permission. Redistributors aren’t producers, I can be a pedantic ass too.

That’s what I said. In the late 90s, the recipe for Canada was changed. Lately the original has been appearing in the Import aisles. What Kraft was selling as original HP since then is closer to the UK “fruity” HP variant.

300 lb tongue weight on that golf. One horse in a one horse trailer is really fucking pushing it, 4 is out of the question

Almost none of you have the slightest clue what you’re blathering about.

Yep. HP sauce did this. Used to be ubiquitous on restaurant tables in Canada. Then they changed the recipe, white vinegar instead of malt, no rue flour, orange juice concentrate instead of tanarind puree, new version was sharper, more astringent, less sweet n smoky. Everyone just quit buying it without even really noticing why. Then the old recipe started showing up in “ethnic food” aisles in areas with high dutch and English immigration.

Why not just admit hating certain people makes you feel smart?

Seems like it. Or maybe you’ve no sense of scale, don’t know what you’re looking at. Max tongue weight like that, a person would nearly have to balance 3000 lbs on the trailer axle, 1800 front, 1200 rear or so. Recipe for a whipping trailer.

LOL. I just looked up tongue weight max on a golf. 300 pounds. They’re literally useless and dangerous for towing anything over 1000lbs.

They have vehicles to carry more than 800 lbs.

Said three thousand pound load, that does not include the trailer. Gross weights gonna be 4500, 5000 ish. Vans are generally pickup truck drivelines this continent, so no real difference there for mileage.

I’m not putting 3000 lbs of beer bottles on a trailer behind a (modern) car. It’s borderline unsafe and over car capacity. You’re talking to a CDL holder, I do know s thing or two about pulling trailers. Cars domt have full frames anymore, that’s only one of the many reasons this bad idea

Do you know how much 250 empty cases of 24 bottles weighs? Its a lot more than the little one can hold. I had to construct 2x4 stake panels up to the height of the roof as it was with a full size long bed, in order to avoid making 3 trips (twenty miles to the depot), and it would take five with that little truck that can’t even hit highway speed. It also can’t tow my fifth wheel camper. (From 1983, before I get the rich person problems accusation. I ain’t rich, I’m rural and handy enough buy old shit cheap)

No. Read it again.

Good old jeeps. Same mileage as a pickup truck with no load capacity.

Lorries with heavy capacity. Trucks of a different design but similar capacities.

I mean, fuck, I own a bar and need a pickup truck simply because how else am I gonna return 250 empty cases of beer to recycling? I ain’t putting that smell in an enclosed van and if I got an open trailer, I’d need a truck to tow it anyways. (I actually do have a van, I use it in winter and rainy days for picking up full beer cases, doesn’t have near the weight capacity of the truck although using the same motor and getting similar mileage)

And one can only do 45 and carry 800 lbs at best. The other a couple thousand, tow a large trailer at 70 easily.

Well you failed.

Idk man. The young ones today are self centered and narcissistic as hell.

I’ve half a theory it’s a new boomer generation and these things are cyclical, you get a boomer one every third. 70 years back from 20 years old today you find the Boomers. 70 years back from Millennials you find the dirty 30s. 70 back from the eighties you find the flappers.