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Cake day: June 20th, 2023

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  • Congrats on the new gear! I have a 2-in-1 Dell laptop and a Surface Go 2, both running Debian 13. In laptop mode, I really like GNOME, in tablet mode it’s… fine. The biggest problem is the GNOME OSK, which honestly is not great. It frequently needs to be manually triggered (instead of automatically opening when clicking in a text-entry zone) and it’s missing just about every modifier key unless you’re in terminal mode. And GNOME (in its infinite wisdom), decided that the user shouldn’t have the choice of when to put the keyboard in terminal mode. There is one extension, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/5949/gjs-osk/, which helps, but it just duplicates a hardware keyboard virtually instead of providing a fully featured mobile-style keyboard.

    On my tablet I use Phosh, which can be installed on top of GNOME and provides a mobile-forward UI and a much better OSK. The Phosh-tablet metapackage in Debian 13 doesn’t take up much disk space and, IMHO, will give you a much better touch experience than vanilla GNOME (if you don’t mind switching back and forth depending on whether you are in tablet mode or laptop mode). Other than the inconvenience of switching back and forth, the only bug I’ve noticed is that maximize/minimize/close buttons need to be restored when switching from Phosh back to GNOME Shell.








  • an app launcher. Literally every other desktop on the planet has one, how this isn’t considered basic functionality is beyond me. Give your grandparents a vanilla GNOME computer and tell them to get to Facebook and you will see how necessary this is. Default should be dash-to-dock with intelligent autohide so you only see it when you need it. This would fulfill GNOME’s hangups about it while also improving usability, so I fail to see a downside.

    GNOME does have a launcher, which works just like the launcher on Mac and Android. You can even select whether to see all your apps or only the most-used ones. I do agree that a taskbar/dock with intelligent auto-hide is a must, though (at least for my usability). That’s also not to say that some folks would rather have a Windows style launcher, and there are several DEs that provide that.







  • A qualified yes. I love the overview, which is, IMO, the most elegant way to launch applications and manage workspaces of any OS or DE. I also love the general look and fluidity of the environment and how it gets out out of your way when you don’t need it. But I preferred the pre-GNOME 40 vertical workflow to the new horizontal workflow.

    There are also three must-have extensions that make GNOME usable for me:

    • AppIndicator and KStatusNotifierItem Support. GNOME can wish away tray icons if they want to, but the tray hasn’t gone away and is still necessary for some applications.
    • DashToDock. Makes app switching more accessible and adds right-click to close.
    • Gnome 4x UI Improvements. Increases the size of the workspace thumbnails so you can actually see what’s in them (like it was before GNOME 40).






  • GNOME. Been using Linux since before GNOME Shell was a thing and when it became a thing it just clicked for me. In my opinion, it’s by far the most polished DE and provides the most elegant and intuitive launcher and workspace switcher of any DE or OS I’ve used. At least they did, until they fucked it up by moving from vertical to horizontal workspaces and made the workspace previews so small you can no longer see what’s in them.

    Which is the downside of GNOME. Sometimes their developers are their own worst enemies. Fortunately, there are usually extensions to fix the most egregious “enhancements”.