For those who aren’t familiar with the term, it means believing something that probably shouldn’t be believed, or being influenced to believe something that’s not necessarily in your best interests.

  • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
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    1 天前

    At some point your hedonistic desires clash with moral frameworks and you don’t do the wrong thing, best case scenario. “Nothing matters so just have a good time” erases that paradigm/doesn’t allow for one to exist in the first place. You’re going mostly on vibes and maybe more money means you could get nicer things and comfier toys and have more fun so you start your OF/sell drugs/scam your way into millions and now you scam more because you’re the prez of the free world (lol)… get it?

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      1 天前

      I get your point but being nice to people and acting in a fair and moral way feels good to most people, myself included so I don’t personally see nihilistic self fulfillment and moral behaviour as mutually exclusive (in most cases, billionaires not included).

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        21 小时前

        But at some point, when virtue doesn’t taste as nice as forgoing it, you’ll fall. And you might have not had you had some form of moral framework in place and not just our inner “noble savage” nature.

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          14 小时前

          How do theists rationalise this when they do awful things like buggering children?

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            6 小时前

            They don’t, those who transgress in those ways never believed in God’s judgment (or suddenly developed some brain tumor that radically changed their behaviour, but that’s mega rare, lol). They just say they do, and those who don’t know how to judge people (by their fruits!) keep getting swindled. I’m sure Trump has made allusions to being somewhat religious lol, you don’t think he believes in any of that, right?

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              1 小时前

              So you’re claiming now that no Christian ever committed a sin because they weren’t really Christians anyway?

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      23 小时前

      Don’t mix up optimistic nihilism with moral wrongness, you can be “nothing matters let’s have a good time” while at the same time wanting everyone else to also have a good time.

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      23 小时前

      I’m glad you have an imaginary sky friend to prevent you to from being a bad person. /S Denjin is correct nothing matters do no harm is an option.